Only a little.  I like being productive.  And following the comments on the kickstarter just ate my time.

I've backed a whole bunch of things on KS, and I wonder if part of that is the enjoyment of letting yourself get swept up in a successful campaign. Every day brings new drama with the different stretch goals and milestones to be reached!

Um, nope. Not even a little bit. We hit a saturation point on this in terms of what the team can get done. Pushing bigger numbers and more goals would have spread them to the point where nothing gets done. Truth be told, I don't even want to see another kickstarter offer because this one should have been enough to establish the company firmly and sales from those 10+ books should cover the start up costs for anything about the East, a board game or a different RPG. It should not be a replacement for a "preorder" system.

Actually, that might be a good idea for one of you tech types looking for a digital business. A system to preorder games from companies that don't need to fund the whole thing from the ground up. Guys like cool mini or not should have the capital and are just using the kickstarter to judge interest in the project and grab a share of cash in advance. But at this point, they should be self sustaining.

Kickstarter in the game industry is getting used be some folks as a marketing tool. Toss the idea out at the draft/mock up stage and if they back it, you finish design and produce it. If they don't, you scrap it and repurposed bits for the next idea. Plus, you can mismanage your profits and still get off the ground. And i have seen the articles about how kickstarter normally barely cover expenses. To me that is an extension of the financial problem. If you are offering goals that break you, you are offering the wrong thing. But it is a smart way to predict interest and potential sales (and thus number of copies to produce). I just think there needs to be a differentiation between a kick-start program and a preorder system.

While the kickstarter was fun to watch (and I did watch it obsessively), I'm just as happy with having the forums here to read through to keep my interest.

I do miss the kind of frantic energy of the campaign and the community that rose up out of it; but I am with Jenny in that I am very happy to have a forum to keep the momentum going. By the way, Congrats on 1000 posts. 

1,000... Wow, sorry about that. I tend to reply to everything in sight. Kidding aside, I have been a part of most of the forums for this game over the last 15 years. All of them have had some great posters with creative ideas to share. But this group has tossed some great conceptual discussions around without a sourcebook to draw on. I look forward to seeing this unfold with the lot of you.

@TrueIskandar, I listed out all the sites I found at this link below, so moved your question and @Krupp's detailed response to join that growing list (which includes a cool Reddit for 7th Sea too).

http://www.7thsea2e.com/port/forum/linking-to-other-fan-sites

A short comment "Watching paint dry" causes less boredom that waiting for the "1st Edition of 7th Sea PDFs" from John Wick Presents today.

So if someone here gets wind of the update quickly, feel free to post it here for us to debae. 

Latest updated by John Wick still stays 1st edition PDFs will appear tonight, though time is running out.

The exact timing of the release is likely to be spread out over days. It is my guess that the list JWP got from KS is not something they can just hand over to Drivethru. My guess is that someone at JWP is working as fast as they can, basically copying, pasting, and clicking OK about 11000 times.

@Doctor, that is why we have software. Programmed correctly, it can protect your privacy and yet still allow linking of the Usernames to the Email addresses to sendout the PDF links.

So John Wick's team should have said Surveys will be sent out on this day and those who respond early get their PDFs a day after they respond. Software can actually send out the PDFs immediatley the survey is completed (we do that here when you forget yoru password and need a reminder).

I've got mine, just in time for my follow-up session to the quickstart.

Cthulhu is happily devouring his 1st edition too. (^^^)

Any questions about anything you read, toss it out here. If it involves metaplot, ask in the spoiler section. If it involves mechanics throw it in the core rules section. I will answer to the best of my abilities.

I got mine BUT I think it might be missing some stuff. Weren't the Swashbuckling Adventures books said to be included as well?

Swashbuckling Adventures got hung up on some rights transfer issues. My guess is someone forgot to call someone else's lawyer to get the right releases for things released under a D20 imprint. It's possible that no one is at fault and DrivethruRPG is just doing its due diligence and no one at WoTC's legal team could be reached on a weekend. Anyway, they will be released in a second wave.

Hopefully this will let them figure out a way to ease the burden when the core book drops. For the record, I am totally OK with JWP sending that out in waves. Maybe give the upper tier backer levels a bonus for generosity (every body over say 120 bucks) then a second release for the mid range support (maybe 60-120) and then the last release for the just PDF crowd. AND AFTER that make it open for purchase. Or run it the other order since the big backers are getting wonderful toys. And by a split, I literally mean a day apart. Just to break up demand on the site. As October is a busy work month for me, I will again do you all a favor and delay downloading when it releases. (It's a small thing but the best I got)

I for one am just as happy not having the siren song of the KS to draw me away from other things that need doing.

It's bad enough that a new document on an ancestor from my sister got me back into genealogy research again, and I got almost nothing else done for over a week (which is also why I posted nothing here -- earlier this evening "new and updated topic" went into three pages!). On the up side, I may have finally broken the Great Wall of the Atlantic and traced one of our lines back to Ireland.

I'll try to keep up a little better .

(Thread necro here...)

I'm just wishing we had some substantial news at this point. Getting the 1e PDFs is nice, but I'm really digging the 2e rules from the quickstart, and I'm eager for more!

Patience, young padawan. It will arrive when it is ready to arrive and you can spend the next twenty years enjoying the effort. A few months of anticipation is not much to ask for all that fun.

I don't have any patience, I'm not a doctor!

All kidding aside, I guess I am being a bit impatient. My apologies to one and all.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I want this thing yesterday too. I just scream about it in the backyard instead of online.

I'm with you, Code Ronin.  It's just too quiet on the western front.  Sure, it's nice to have the 1st ed PDFs now, but I had most of those in my library already.  So I'm jonesing for previews.

I feel like they are overdue for an update post.

 

Is that a good update? :)

To be honest, I would prefer seeing John take the feedback now, go back for a rewrite and keep to the October schedule. There will be things that could use it.

What major re-writes do you mean?

Start with the secret society blurbs. R&C seems so boring that I don't want to play them ever again and I live and breathe that group. The rest could use some sense of excitement as well. Explain why the DK are so fervent about monsters when they found none on their journeys. The GM section repeats all that pretty prose about hats and meta information which is good material but this system with it's new " never fail" paradigm NEEDS instruction on how to make the players feel challenge and drama when they know they are going to succeed. It needs a guide on how to structure an adventure from the ground up to fill a play session. Advice on what to do when players run out of raises to spend in a sequence, a rough idea of threat level for a group of 4 vs. A group of 6, an advisory on building and balancing new backgrounds because that pretty little list left some big gaps. The dueling rules still need clarification on when you can or cannot use them, what players without the dueling abilityay do or spend raises on and what happens when a Duelist fights an untrained fighter. I have already seen complaints on RPG net about language translation issues in German, there is time to get that fixed or we spend a decade listening to more "el vago" complaints. And while I understand that sourcebooks with villians are coming, you have nothing in here for a new and possibly inexperienced GM to use to start a game right off the bat. I also have issue with all the red text but that is personal taste and aesthetics. Now, I may have overlooked where some of this is actually covered, you all threw this at us with no warning on a very busy working weekend for me. But as a GM with 37 years of experience, this is the sort of thing I should be able to see at first glance.

A history section would be nice.

The copy paste on the skill list in two sections of the book seems like a wasted page that could be repurposed.

Did anyone find the section that explained how to grow the Danger Pool? I played it the Conan Kickstarter way, where Hero Points, if spent by the players, entered the GM's Danger Pool. And when the GM spent from that Danger Pool, then those counters returned to the out-of-play recycling bucket.